http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#ffe337e6-aaad-43e9-9808-62cf9b041981 How is it cheating, against the say of the Devil perhaps? Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:09:56 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#ffe337e6-aaad-43e9-9808-62cf9b041981 the dude 2009-12-12T16:09:56Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#93bbbce7-10a2-4fc5-8c51-11af71eea72e Who is being cheated? Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:11:31 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#93bbbce7-10a2-4fc5-8c51-11af71eea72e Od 2009-12-12T15:11:31Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#b37340b5-a621-4c68-983d-e9881e29b34f I am for this 33 min thing. Just for a good argument sake, if I may share my wild thoughts on this. If we are to remember (or consider) the fact that spinal cord as a liquid column filled with amino acids (science can not exactly determine and classify this content 100%) and by applying pressure or through induced vibration (like masturbation / coital act) if we are to initiate the reverse osmosis of these amino acids to create polarity (which generate mild electricity in some form) and a sense of pleasure due to how our brain is programmed to experience this feeling, then I feel this damn thing is possible - I mean the 33 min awakening. Dr. J would you be kind enough to share any name or other ref to this 33 min process? Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:16:52 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#b37340b5-a621-4c68-983d-e9881e29b34f Raj 2009-12-12T03:16:52Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#25c6d7df-de6e-4cfa-9bd4-974c0cb58a29 good/bad = repressed always perfectly you Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:21:56 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#25c6d7df-de6e-4cfa-9bd4-974c0cb58a29 Nick 2009-12-10T16:21:56Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#bfbbe725-5797-4f09-a708-9e57ccd4f13c i;m a good girl i yam! repressed? Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:19:46 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#bfbbe725-5797-4f09-a708-9e57ccd4f13c SUPER☾ALI 2009-12-10T16:19:46Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#afa51350-31a6-4e1b-8e3c-57834cf25f78 stop being unliberated... thats it. :) Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:03:21 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#afa51350-31a6-4e1b-8e3c-57834cf25f78 Nick 2009-12-10T16:03:21Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#fee0903b-27c7-45d3-9441-597c890be0ab well i just wonder if Kundalini may stir on its own.. and whether it's true liberation if you attempt to harness the power, as opposed to letting it have its way.. Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:34:09 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#fee0903b-27c7-45d3-9441-597c890be0ab SUPER☾ALI 2009-12-09T05:34:09Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#77ef972b-406a-459b-a18e-213f6d1237fd Why is manufactured is bad? Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:46:08 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#77ef972b-406a-459b-a18e-213f6d1237fd Ryan 2009-12-08T14:46:08Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#2802a554-03f6-4a01-ab85-bf30dbd68b4d yeh i wonder, too.. seems kinda manufactured. course it can't be taken for granted when it's spontaneous, really. Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:26:14 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#2802a554-03f6-4a01-ab85-bf30dbd68b4d SUPER☾ALI 2009-12-08T01:26:14Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#bfd1673d-1574-45e1-9bb6-5462ea6ef0a4 It is impossible to cheat at this. It takes many years. No matter what you think you've felt. Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:16:54 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#bfd1673d-1574-45e1-9bb6-5462ea6ef0a4 Kunda 2009-12-07T22:16:54Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#29abbe4c-40bc-40f6-b7ce-510805dfa40b if it's cheating that's ok, no one is judging it ...many forms yet One is shakti...everyOne has his/her marker :) 1 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:11:34 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#29abbe4c-40bc-40f6-b7ce-510805dfa40b BodhiShanti 2009-07-06T23:11:34Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#e1bd7cf6-e976-44f1-a736-8d9a02b9538d Thanks for the insight. I am not sure I believe it is cheating, but that is just what I have heard, but I also know not to believe everything you hear and to follow your bliss, and if that means awakening through Kundalini in order to achieve enlightenment, then so be it. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:21:35 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#e1bd7cf6-e976-44f1-a736-8d9a02b9538d Dr. J 2009-07-01T19:21:35Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#cdf7834b-9588-467f-8b35-298a04d6e4e4 Hi everyone, >think that doing so via Kundalini awakening is cheating One would only think of it as “cheating” if one is thinking of enlightenment as some type of contest. It is only a contest if your ego is heavily invested. Why anyone would be begrudge somebody else’s awakening baffles me. There are so few, we should rejoice in all of them. Kundalini-yoga is an extremely powerful tool. Like any mundane power-tool, it can be used to great benefit, used to great harm, and used in a way that doesn't accomplish much of anything other than diversion. >because it can be done in 33 minutes While a given practice session may last less than an hour, I've never heard of anyone accomplishing much in a -single- practice session. In any event, most ancient texts talk about raising kundalini as an important step on the path, but not the end of the path. But if somebody awakens thirty odd minutes after beginning, we should all rejoice. >and that one who has awakened this way has signs of it in their energy >and can be recognized as one who used Kundalini to do so. I don't think there is much question about the fact that some people can sense activated kundalini in others. However, I certainly don't think it's anything to be ashamed of. Honesty, doesn't this all sounds like "my sadhana can beat-up your sadhana" playground nonsense. It really *can't* be cheating IMHO because it is a persons karma that brings them to a kundalini teacher and guides them to engage the practice seriously. That karma is the result of choices and life-orientations from uncountable lifetimes of accumulations. The fact that it happened this lifetime in a way the -looks- relatively easy to another person doesn't mean that it wasn't earned over eons of dedication and sacrifice. We are all the product of what we were before, and where we are now is always the result of were we have been before. Gratitude and love, Ryan Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:37:35 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#cdf7834b-9588-467f-8b35-298a04d6e4e4 Ryan 2009-07-01T03:37:35Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#93fe3d2e-fef6-4436-99cc-ee275dee57a9 My thinking is - If we could get enlightenment within 33 minutes , every sadhaka pursuing kundalini yoga would be enlightened by now :D. In Dnyana Yoga, the yoga of knowledge, you need devotion and dispassion in any path . Once kundalini is awakened ( that is if your physiological and pranic conditions are conducive for awakening ) , at every chakra , you are supposed to attain a new siddhi, but along with that , there is also a new attachment to be dispassionate about. Its like , you receive a medal after every race, and immediately after receiving the medal , you have to throw it away and prepare for the next race. Otherwise, you tend to be satisfied with the medal and feel that medal was your purpose in life. You can get the powers and rejoice them , but enlightenment is still further than that. Once you become enlightened, and become one with the prana of the universe , even the kundalini and the powers you realize will be maya for you. Eternal peace Om. Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:58:14 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#93fe3d2e-fef6-4436-99cc-ee275dee57a9 sachin 2009-06-25T17:58:14Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#6f2facdd-eadb-4e64-b7e6-7ad72e51d2c0 It's not cheating. You awaken when you awaken. Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:00:52 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#6f2facdd-eadb-4e64-b7e6-7ad72e51d2c0 Geo 2009-06-25T14:00:52Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#ff787f5e-8fef-4661-99cb-bea893085f99 Namaste There are so many different paths and Kundalini is also one of them. Now its your choice to which you choose but you have to choose. OM Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:03:39 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#ff787f5e-8fef-4661-99cb-bea893085f99 Yogi madan 2009-06-25T13:03:39Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#22ee66b9-bc1e-409b-af6f-562f64ee5d78 everyone's path is different. there are as many ways to "enlightenment" as there are people. thich nath hanh says you can liberate yourself by brushing your teeth, if you do it with awareness. is that cheating? personally, I think that going about any sort of "spiritual practice" is cheating. Even bothering to incarnate in the first place could be considered cheating. Unfortunately, having any sort of relationship with reality at all seems to inevitably make a big mess. . . so why not experiment, choose the path(s) that inspire(s) you and enjoy! Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:26:25 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#22ee66b9-bc1e-409b-af6f-562f64ee5d78 Ezekiel 2009-06-25T03:26:25Z http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#664c7b41-7cb1-4c6f-ac4e-da2dbcd31bb2 Was talking with my yoga mentor about enlightenment and kundalini and the topic came up about those that have achieved enlightenment through years, decades, lifetimes of devotion to meditation and yoga think that doing so via Kundalini awakening is cheating because it can be done in 33 minutes, and that one who has awakened this way has signs of it in their energy and can be recognized as one who used Kundalini to do so. I want to get other's thoughts on this subject. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:29:27 GMT http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#664c7b41-7cb1-4c6f-ac4e-da2dbcd31bb2 Dr. J 2009-06-24T22:29:27Z