Tribe.net. Local Connections the dude http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#ffe337e6-aaad-43e9-9808-62cf9b041981 2009-12-12T16:09:56Z 2009-12-12T16:09:56Z

How is it cheating, against the say of the Devil perhaps?

the dude 2009-12-12T16:09:56Z Od http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#93bbbce7-10a2-4fc5-8c51-11af71eea72e 2009-12-12T15:11:31Z 2009-12-12T15:11:31Z

Who is being cheated?

Od 2009-12-12T15:11:31Z Raj http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#b37340b5-a621-4c68-983d-e9881e29b34f 2009-12-12T03:16:52Z 2009-12-12T03:16:52Z

I am for this 33 min thing. Just for a good argument sake, if I may share my wild thoughts on this. If we are to remember (or consider) the fact that spinal cord as a liquid column filled with amino acids (science can not exactly determine and classify this content 100%) and by applying pressure or through induced vibration (like masturbation / coital act) if we are to initiate the reverse osmosis of these amino acids to create polarity (which generate mild electricity in some form) and a sense of pleasure due to how our brain is programmed to experience this feeling, then I feel this damn thing is possible - I mean the 33 min awakening. Dr. J would you be kind enough to share any name or other ref to this 33 min process?

Raj 2009-12-12T03:16:52Z Nick http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#25c6d7df-de6e-4cfa-9bd4-974c0cb58a29 2009-12-10T16:21:56Z 2009-12-10T16:21:56Z

good/bad = repressed always perfectly you

Nick 2009-12-10T16:21:56Z SUPER☾ALI http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#bfbbe725-5797-4f09-a708-9e57ccd4f13c 2009-12-10T16:19:46Z 2009-12-10T16:19:46Z

i;m a good girl i yam! repressed?

SUPER☾ALI 2009-12-10T16:19:46Z Nick http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#afa51350-31a6-4e1b-8e3c-57834cf25f78 2009-12-10T16:03:21Z 2009-12-10T16:03:21Z

stop being unliberated... thats it. :)

Nick 2009-12-10T16:03:21Z SUPER☾ALI http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#fee0903b-27c7-45d3-9441-597c890be0ab 2009-12-09T05:34:09Z 2009-12-09T05:34:09Z

well i just wonder if Kundalini may stir on its own.. and whether it's true liberation if you attempt to harness the power, as opposed to letting it have its way..

SUPER☾ALI 2009-12-09T05:34:09Z Ryan http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#77ef972b-406a-459b-a18e-213f6d1237fd 2009-12-08T14:46:08Z 2009-12-08T14:46:08Z

Why is manufactured is bad?

Ryan 2009-12-08T14:46:08Z SUPER☾ALI http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#2802a554-03f6-4a01-ab85-bf30dbd68b4d 2009-12-08T01:26:14Z 2009-12-08T01:26:14Z

yeh i wonder, too.. seems kinda manufactured. course it can't be taken for granted when it's spontaneous, really.

SUPER☾ALI 2009-12-08T01:26:14Z Kunda http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#bfd1673d-1574-45e1-9bb6-5462ea6ef0a4 2009-12-07T22:16:54Z 2009-12-07T22:16:54Z

It is impossible to cheat at this. It takes many years. No matter what you think you've felt.

Kunda 2009-12-07T22:16:54Z BodhiShanti http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#29abbe4c-40bc-40f6-b7ce-510805dfa40b 2009-07-06T23:11:34Z 2009-07-06T23:11:34Z

if it's cheating that's ok, no one is judging it ...many forms yet One is shakti...everyOne has his/her marker :) 1

BodhiShanti 2009-07-06T23:11:34Z Dr. J http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#e1bd7cf6-e976-44f1-a736-8d9a02b9538d 2009-07-01T19:21:35Z 2009-07-01T19:21:35Z

Thanks for the insight. I am not sure I believe it is cheating, but that is just what I have heard, but I also know not to believe everything you hear and to follow your bliss, and if that means awakening through Kundalini in order to achieve enlightenment, then so be it.

Dr. J 2009-07-01T19:21:35Z Ryan http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#cdf7834b-9588-467f-8b35-298a04d6e4e4 2009-07-01T03:37:35Z 2009-07-01T03:37:35Z

Hi everyone, >think that doing so via Kundalini awakening is cheating One would only think of it as “cheating” if one is thinking of enlightenment as some type of contest. It is only a contest if your ego is heavily invested. Why anyone would be begrudge somebody else’s awakening baffles me. There are so few, we should rejoice in all of them. Kundalini-yoga is an extremely powerful tool. Like any mundane power-tool, it can be used to great benefit, used to great harm, and used in a way that doesn't accomplish much of anything other than diversion. >because it can be done in 33 minutes While a given practice session may last less than an hour, I've never heard of anyone accomplishing much in a -single- practice session. In any event, most ancient texts talk about raising kundalini as an important step on the path, but not the end of the path. But if somebody awakens thirty odd minutes after beginning, we should all rejoice. >and that one who has awakened this way has signs of it in their energy >and can be recognized as one who used Kundalini to do so. I don't think there is much question about the fact that some people can sense activated kundalini in others. However, I certainly don't think it's anything to be ashamed of. Honesty, doesn't this all sounds like "my sadhana can beat-up your sadhana" playground nonsense. It really *can't* be cheating IMHO because it is a persons karma that brings them to a kundalini teacher and guides them to engage the practice seriously. That karma is the result of choices and life-orientations from uncountable lifetimes of accumulations. The fact that it happened this lifetime in a way the -looks- relatively easy to another person doesn't mean that it wasn't earned over eons of dedication and sacrifice. We are all the product of what we were before, and where we are now is always the result of were we have been before. Gratitude and love, Ryan

Ryan 2009-07-01T03:37:35Z sachin http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#93fe3d2e-fef6-4436-99cc-ee275dee57a9 2009-06-25T17:58:14Z 2009-06-25T17:58:14Z

My thinking is - If we could get enlightenment within 33 minutes , every sadhaka pursuing kundalini yoga would be enlightened by now :D. In Dnyana Yoga, the yoga of knowledge, you need devotion and dispassion in any path . Once kundalini is awakened ( that is if your physiological and pranic conditions are conducive for awakening ) , at every chakra , you are supposed to attain a new siddhi, but along with that , there is also a new attachment to be dispassionate about. Its like , you receive a medal after every race, and immediately after receiving the medal , you have to throw it away and prepare for the next race. Otherwise, you tend to be satisfied with the medal and feel that medal was your purpose in life. You can get the powers and rejoice them , but enlightenment is still further than that. Once you become enlightened, and become one with the prana of the universe , even the kundalini and the powers you realize will be maya for you. Eternal peace Om.

sachin 2009-06-25T17:58:14Z Geo http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#6f2facdd-eadb-4e64-b7e6-7ad72e51d2c0 2009-06-25T14:00:52Z 2009-06-25T14:00:52Z

It's not cheating. You awaken when you awaken.

Geo 2009-06-25T14:00:52Z Yogi madan http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#ff787f5e-8fef-4661-99cb-bea893085f99 2009-06-25T13:03:39Z 2009-06-25T13:03:39Z

Namaste There are so many different paths and Kundalini is also one of them. Now its your choice to which you choose but you have to choose. OM

Yogi madan 2009-06-25T13:03:39Z Ezekiel http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#22ee66b9-bc1e-409b-af6f-562f64ee5d78 2009-06-25T03:26:25Z 2009-06-25T03:26:25Z

everyone's path is different. there are as many ways to "enlightenment" as there are people. thich nath hanh says you can liberate yourself by brushing your teeth, if you do it with awareness. is that cheating? personally, I think that going about any sort of "spiritual practice" is cheating. Even bothering to incarnate in the first place could be considered cheating. Unfortunately, having any sort of relationship with reality at all seems to inevitably make a big mess. . . so why not experiment, choose the path(s) that inspire(s) you and enjoy!

Ezekiel 2009-06-25T03:26:25Z Dr. J http://kundaliniyoga.tribe.net/thread/17d8a00b-0ea9-4937-b36b-05a1c04c9851#664c7b41-7cb1-4c6f-ac4e-da2dbcd31bb2 2009-06-24T22:29:27Z 2009-06-24T22:29:27Z

Was talking with my yoga mentor about enlightenment and kundalini and the topic came up about those that have achieved enlightenment through years, decades, lifetimes of devotion to meditation and yoga think that doing so via Kundalini awakening is cheating because it can be done in 33 minutes, and that one who has awakened this way has signs of it in their energy and can be recognized as one who used Kundalini to do so. I want to get other's thoughts on this subject.

Dr. J 2009-06-24T22:29:27Z